To Protect And To Serve: Comparing Two Unions

by lewwaters

vancouver-pdFresh on the heels of Vancouver, Washington’s Firefighter’s Union vote to forgo their annual pay raise, we read that Vancouver, Washington’s Police Department Union will not forgo theirs.

Well deserved kudos were expressed when the Firefighter’s Union announced that 91% of their members voted to forgo the pay increase at a time that the city is facing severe financial problems.

Fire Capt. Bill Garlington, a 22-year veteran of our Fire Department, expressed concern over the economy as he explained his vote to forgo the raise,

People are losing their jobs. The people losing their jobs are the people who are paying our wages.”

Sgt. Scott Creager, secretary of the Police Union said,

Our position is we are due to start negotiations in June. We aren’t interested in opening the contract for six months,” adding, “The spirit of collective bargaining is that you sign a contract and you honor it. If we were going to make a concession on our wage, would the city be responsible to make us whole for the vacation that was given up?”

Vancouver’s Police pay scale ranges between $53,016 to $83,844. Firefighters seem to have a similar pay scale, maybe slightly higher for the Fire Captain.

Average household income for Vancouver is just under $50,000.

Do not think for a minute that I consider the Police as over paid, I do not. Their jobs are worth every dime they receive and yes, even more when they are faced with danger protecting us. I have nothing but the utmost respect and honor for these people, but they are in jobs they volunteered for.

Contrast that with our Military, whose base entry pay is about $17,000 a year. A mid-rank NCO with time in grade earns perhaps $48,000 a year with mid-grade Officers making as much as $78,000 a year.

I imagine the lower ranks earning less are doing the most in the Military and they have no union to negotiate their pay scale nor do they get to vote in their pay raise, as do politicians.

All across the nation, Americans are being asked to sacrifice in order to help in these economically depressed times. People are being laid off. Business are going out of business and closing their doors. Jobs, including Union jobs, are being lost as more people are seeking other employment to weather these troubled times.

Vancouver’s Firefighters have shown the way to keep their jobs and help the community they serve by voting to forgo their pay increase right now. Even with them now being allowed to accrue 24 hours a month sick leave, an increase over what they previously earned and which cannot be ‘cashed in’ should they leave the employ of the city, says Vancouver’s assistant city manager, Betsy Williams.

City managers and non-union city employees will not be receiving pay increases either this year.

Congress is facing scorn for accepting a scheduled pay raise.

Chief Justice Roberts continues his push for a pay increase for Federal Judges.

Our paychecks are declining, tax revenues are decreasing, homes being foreclosed, jobs lost, public debt is rising and unemployment is up. Stimulus checks and corporate bailouts will only go so far before there is nothing left from us citizens to give.

Vancouver’s Firefighters deserve the kudos they are receiving as they have led the way to continue serving the public and keeping their jobs safe.

I don’t see what harm it would have done for the Vancouver Police to follow suit and help Clark County citizen’s weather this storm and to keep their numbers up as well.

They too deserve what they earn and in better economic times, perhaps even more. At this time with revenues scarce and politicians seeking more revenue sources, don’t be surprised to see traffic citations increase in Vancouver to help offset the failing economy.

I hope they don’t pull this old trick, but many other communities across the nation have swelled their coffers with the “speed trap” mentality over the years.

If Vancouver ends up reducing their number of Police Officers, look no further than a Union that demands increases while the rest of us are being asked to sacrifice and facing decreases in our livelihood and lifestyle.

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3 Comments to “To Protect And To Serve: Comparing Two Unions”

  1. Just saw your site and checked it out.

    With regards to the Vancouver Police not declining their pay raise: Whoa! hang on a moment.

    Neither the mayor (Rolls Royce Pollard, that was good) nor the other council members, city manager or directors declined their pay raises. Further, upon closer inspection we find that in 2007 the Vancouver Police Union realized that tough economic times were coming and elected to “help” the city out and take the COLA and to reduce their vacation accrual rate to SAVE money for the city. Then the city came back and wanted more. Why?

    What the Columbian and City didn’t tell you was (as with every contract) the COLA (cost of living adjustment) was in place and that happened to be the only year it maxed out EVER in 30 years of Vancouver maybe longer. The City did not prepare even when they were told hold on to your money its going to get bumpy. Boy did it ever.

    So not only do the brave men and women of VPD save people each day they tried to save money as well only to have their savings used to pay the developers and city council more money.

    The VFD (bless their hearts) got screwed by the city. Well we didn’t see the collapse of Western Civilization, so Rolls Royce Pollard still takes his trips to Japan. I guess VFD and all the other employees paid for that.

  2. Art, I don’t live in the city so cannot vote on teh mayor. If I could, Pollard would not receive my vote at all, regardless of who ran against him.

    The whole point of this post was to applaud the VFD for their selfless act.

    Of course, when we are all biting the bullet and some don’t, we all pay, don’t we?

    I hope you’ll stop by the PUD’s downtown building tomorrow at 7 PM and see all three Mayoral candidates answer some questions from citizens.

    Sponsored by the GOP and open to the public.

    But, as the city faces such a deficit as it does, don’t be surprised to see less employees in the future while this is worked out and many still take instead of helping lower costs.

    Hopefully, the Mayors office will be one.

  3. Lew – I just found your web-site and the attached story. I know this is no longer timely, but unfortunately you only received part of the story when it was announced that VFD line personnel were foregoing a raise in 2009. What the public was not originally told, was that in lieu of any raise, the VFD 1 year contract included significant increases in the accrual and bank allowances of sick leave, nearly doubling both. Significant benefits and very difficult to accurately quantify over the careers of over 200 employees. I would submit that the actual dollar amount of their agreement is significantly more than the COLA + 1%.

    What the public was also not told, was that VPD members had agreed to reduce their vacation accruals at the beginning of this contract, in return for a 1% raise over the cost of living in 2009. The City had received the benefit of this reduced accrual for 2 years prior to the COLA + 1% raise that VPOG members agreed to for 2009. Art J has the facts straight in his post.

    The lack of candor was an attempt to leverage the Vancouver Police Guild by misleading the public, and you saw the fallout of that when the Police Union wholeheartedly endorsed Tim Leavitt for Mayor. I understand your original opinion. Had you known the whole story I believe you would understand the Police Guild’s position better.

    Respectfully

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